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Ila says:
Every one of the ratings for this project (all being 5 out of 5) were written by people who signed up the week following the creation of this project, and all respondents reviewed ONLY this project.

This is not real community participation and is not a true reflection of the quality of this project.

A real review:

Positive:
There is cleverness here. I like the theme of masculinity, especially in a world where men's rights over children are so touch and go, and the trope of the mustache is both symbolic and fun (and making it a transferable symbol with the fake mustaches is a great idea). Some, but not all, of the characters are well thought out caricatures, and a recognizable caricature lubricates the comedic reaction for the audience. There's also some fun wordplay (although I'm not referring to the puns).

Negative:
Some of the hyperbole in the character development goes too far. You stop caring about their circumstances because they become too divorced from anything familiar.

You don't need to diminish one gender to elevate another. Mind you, I recognize that no one is represented in a positive light here, but we have a clear dichotomy between the masculine protagonist and the feminine antagonist, which is an old, tired, and lazy strategy.

The plot starts as amusing and then cascades into an avalanche of nonsense. Stick with the character focus in believable (well... slightly exaggerated) situations rather than depending on absurdity to surprise--everyone is surprised by absurdity because it bears no relation to reality, so it's not really an accomplishment.

The fact is, you could place the Mansitters in the real world, with well developed female and male characters around them, and they would be funny. Hapless but visionary men. You could even make them misogynistic without losing sympathy so long as your setting doesn't reinforce that as objective reality.

Remember that gags are just that, they don't work as plots. For example, the training rooms with the bear attack practice is great! It's a visual gag that works because it doesn't go on too long, so the audience doesn't feel alienated. Your episode arc (the towel baby...) went on too long and wasn't funny, it was just weird and sad.

This could actually be a funny and well-timed show with some re-imagining of the world that surrounds your main characters.

By the way, I don't mean for any of my criticism to sound insulting. I'm commending on the product not the producer and only to be constructive. If you're posting publicly, I assume you're looking for honest feedback.
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Illimani says:
And now it's a "notable" project. My own project had a bunch of downloads but for some reason the website was displaying only 2. I deleted it, this website is just a very sophisticate scam.
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Steve Bakken says:
Ila, great criticism! I have a project I've uploaded, if you care to read and give feedback, I'd like that. If possible, keep it private, please. I have not been an active member of this community because I wasn't sure about the legitimacy of this whole thing. And after reading Illimani's (and a couple of others) post/s, I'm beginning to think my suspicions may be valid.

And after reading a few of the "notable" and "development slate" scripts, I became confused. And then after seeing their promo video winner for "A Okay," I was shocked. And not in a good way.

I myself have been trying to upload some promo videos since first posting my project and the website simply won't let me do it. I've exchanged over a dozen emails with the Amazon Studios Team and have only received the proverbial runaround. They claim it's a network, browser, or connection issue on my end, but I've tried uploading from 6 different computers on 4 different networks, with 3 different browsers. So something seems very fishy here. Or just plain unprofessional. My evaluation period with Amazon is up on a week and I'm pulling my project down.

The whole Amazon Studios venture seems like a social network contest of sorts, not like a sincere platform to develop good movies/TV. Maybe it's a fishing scam to steal the good ideas while causing a smokescreen diversion by lauding the bad ideas. Who knows? The whole thing just seems bizarre...
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Ila says:
I haven't developed any opinions regarding Amazon Studios as an entity. I don't often agree with their selections, but it may be 'just business', and they select that which is salable to the broadest audience. They might be taking advantage of the creators, but we're all pretty ready to be taken advantage of at this stage of our professional development. It's the business of art.

In a way, Amazon has my sympathies. Aside from your issues (which do seem really strange) they don't place many restrictions on who can enter. Their reading workload--much of what is likely dreck--must be staggering.

My first entry (private) is also almost to the deadline, and I do plan to put up one more and make it public. My hope is to benefit from other writers rather than break in through Amazon.

But this is off track for the "Mansitters" forum (sorry, guys). I'll be happy to read your script and provide some feedback through your studio mail.
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Steve Bakken says:
Yeah, my apologies, MANSITTERS dudes. I didn't mean to hijack this thread. Just haven't seen a General Discussions forum on the site. Best of luck to you!
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Eric Machmer says:
great review

"you could place the Mansitters in the real world, with well developed female and male characters around them, and they would be funny."

"Remember that gags are just that, they don't work as plots. "
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This is great feedback. Thanks so much to all for your thoughtfulness and for taking the time to offer criticism. It is much appreciated.

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