Why Has Clive Barker Got the Gig?

I thought Amazon was trying to discover fresh talent, but this gig has not even been offered to the writers on here. Also, I just checked IMDB and Barker has not got one single writing credit for a theatrically released film. He's directed and produced, but all he's written is shorts.

This gig was offered here first. Laurie won it and was paid 10K or something for her rewrite.

Viv, Barker wrote and directed several films including: "Hellraiser," "Nightbreed," "Lord of Illusions," "Rawhead Rex," "Candyman," etc. and so forth. Some films he just wrote the story. Other films he wrote the screenplay and the story, as well as directed them.

Transmutations
Rawhide Rex
Hellraiser
Nightbreed
Lord of Illusions

what part of those feature length films did you miss?

Actually, I saw part of Lord of Illusions...

and, given a time machine, I would go back and miss it.

he got the gig because "attaching" is huge! you can have a so-so script but if an a-lister can turn that project into a greenlight.

also, the script is already written. he would just be rewriting it. how much he will change has yet to be seen.

Simply put, more people will be interested in, and pay money to see, a film written by him than any of us.

Wait... That means... oh no....
They will take some poor schnook's idea, rewrite it and slap a sexy name to it, pay 200K to the writer, sell for 800K and share the profits with the sexy name?

Very nice :) As if I didn't see that coming.

But then again... I am here to learn, not earn. When I want to earn, I guess I'll have to go the classic route :). No fame in being Amazonian. no fame - no glory.

that's the way they've been doing it for years -- standard industry practice.
what's kinda wrong about it is that AS started out saying they were going to do things differently. but, they're really very much the same... except for the open to anyone submission policy.

Well, I have no problem eating **** (self censorhip) with a prospect of caviar one day. US is a pretty big and wealthy market. At least snowballs have a chance in that particular hell.

I come from a pisspoint of the universe country, where the entire population does not constitute a small NY suburb. Add Serbian mafia running the whole gig and ex commies bringing the economy to a grinding halt...

I'd sooner try to install a sprinkler in hell and try to build a ski resort.

AS never claimed you would gain fame and fortune if they bought your script. They did say that you have a chance to "get you movie made" and would pay you for the rights to make it.

It's literally written under the heading of the Getting started page for movies.

I see no problem with what they are doing. If the movie is made then they fulfilled their promise.

@ Joe - as long as the check clears they've fulfilled their promise.

And it did. :)

Getting the movie made is the icing on the cupcake.

Lauri,

Every time I give my Nephew a cupcake, I watch him eat the icing and leave the cake. I want the icing.

Every time I see someone eating a cupcake I watch him eat the icing, i say to myself: Can I at least have the cake? Never happens. It's even worse for people in North Korea. They don't even know cake exists.

It's all a matter of perspective :)

You're better off not taking the sloppy seconds of someone else's cupcake. Work on getting your own cupcake. And for the North Koreans, what you don't know won't hurt you.

i usually skim off the excess icing and eat the cake with only a little bit of extra sweetness. guess i'm more indie material then tentpole blockbuster. hmmm!

however... it does depend on the flavor of the icing; peanut butter on choc cake or cream cheese on carrot cake... i eat it all!!!

Here are Clive Barker's credits on IMDB Pro, confirming my original post.


c Hellraiser - Writer (characters) ???? 23,764 Treatment/outline
Tortured Souls: Animae Damnatae - Writer (novella "Tortured Souls"), Producer, Director ???? 145,899 Unknown


Films In Production (1 title)
Year MOVIE
Meter Status Budget
The Black Dahlia Haunting - Special Thanks 2012 37,781 Filming $25K


Past Films & Videos (42 titles)
Year MOVIE
Meter Budget Opening
Weekend US Box
Office
The Nightmare Ends on Halloween II (short) - Writer (characters) 2011 16,538 $300
Crank Up (short) - Dedicatee 2010 75,354
JoJo Baby (documentary) - Executive Producer 2010 198,345
Hellraiser: Deader - Winter's Lament (short) - Writer (characters) 2009 55,599 $4K
Dread - Writer (based upon the short story "Dread" by), Producer 2009 4,628
Book of Blood - Writer (short stories "The Book of Blood" and "On Jerusalem Street"), Producer 2009 6,357 $6M
The Hellraiser Chronicles: Lifebringer (video short) - Special Thanks 2009 93,710
The Midnight Meat Train - Writer (short story "The Midnight Meat Train"), Producer, Acknowledgment (gallery paintings by Rocco Peverelli as played by) 2008 3,179 $15M $34.4K $73.5K
The Plague (video) - Producer 2006 17,946
Purvos (video) - Special Thanks 2006 341,546
Teddy Scares (short) - Edwin Morose (voice) 2006 226,372
The Tontine (short) - Special Thanks 2006 339,100 $5K
Hellraiser: Prophecy (short) - Writer (characters), Special Thanks 2006 34,446 $3.5K
Hellraiser: Hellworld (video) - Writer (characters) 2005 7,692 $5M
Hellraiser: Deader (video) - Writer (characters) 2005 12,889 $4M
The Nightmare Ends on Halloween (short) - Writer (characters), Special Thanks 2004 35,007 $300
Fangoria: Blood Drive (video short) - Himself, Special Thanks 2004 163,939
Chasing Jason (short) - Thanks 2004 224,170 $2K
Hellraiser: Hellseeker (video) - Writer (characters) 2002 13,428 $3M
Mule Skinner Blues (documentary) - Presenter 2001 156,347 $2.55K $10.1K
Hellraiser: Inferno (video) - Writer (characters) 2000 11,579 $2M
Hellbound: Hellraiser II - Lost in the Labyrinth (video documentary short) - Himself, Executive Producer 2000 77,048
Hellraiser: Resurrection (video documentary short) - Himself, Executive Producer 2000 85,461
Candyman: Day of the Dead (video) - Writer (based upon characters created by) 1999 22,378
She's Alive! Creating the Bride of Frankenstein (documentary short) - Himself, Special Thanks 1999 149,227
The World of Gods and Monsters: A Journey with James Whale (video documentary short) - Himself - Executive Producer/Narrator, Acknowledgment 1999 130,068
Gods and Monsters - Executive Producer 1998 7,449 $3.5M $75.5K $6.39M
Hellraiser: Bloodline - Executive Producer 1996 9,864 $4M $16.7M
Othello - Special Thanks 1995 7,362 $11M $2.11M
Lord of Illusions - Writer (screenplay) (story "The Last Illusion"), Producer, Director 1995 11,429 $13.3M
Candyman: Farewell to the Flesh - Writer (story), Executive Producer 1995 16,870 $13.9M
Candyman - Writer (story "The Forbidden"), Executive Producer 1992 3,954 $8M $25.8M
Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - Writer (characters), Executive Producer 1992 7,756 $12.5M
Sleepwalkers - Forensic Tech 1992 7,949 $15M $30.5M
Voices from Beyond - Dedicatee 1991 71,060
Nightbreed - Writer (novel "Cabal") (screenplay), Director 1990 7,142 $8.86M
Hellbound: Hellraiser II - Writer (story), Executive Producer 1988 7,479 $11.1M
Hellraiser - Writer (novel "The Hellbound Heart") (uncredited) (written by), Director, Animator (uncredited) 1987 2,517 $1M $14.6M
Rawhead Rex - Writer (screenplay) 1986 20,417
Underworld - Writer (screenplay) (story) 1985 30,192
The Forbidden (short) - Writer (writer), Actor, Director 1978 74,228
Salome (short) - Writer (writer), Actor, Director 1973 79,648


Past Television (6 titles)
Year MOVIE
Meter User
Rating User
Votes
Masters of Horror (TV series) - Writer (2 episodes, 2006) 4,543 7.6 5,650
Valerie on the Stairs - Writer (based on a story by) 2006 5.7 1,084
Haeckel's Tale - Writer (short story) 2006 6.1 1,619
Saint Sinner (TV movie) - Writer (story), Executive Producer 2002 39,249 3.8 691
The Others (TV series) - George Hutchinson (1 episode, 2000) 22,041 7.0 326
Don't Dream It's Over - George Hutchinson 2000
Quicksilver Highway (TV movie) - Writer (short story "The Body Politic"), Anesthesiologist 1997 29,777 4.6 1,245
A-Z of Horror (TV mini-series documentary) - Host, Presenter 1997 101,015 8.5 43
Tales from the Darkside (TV series) - Writer (1 episode, 1987) 11,267 7.5 1,576
The Yattering and Jack - Writer (writer) 1987 6.6 41


Self (25 titles)
Year MOVIE
Meter User
Rating User
Votes
Into the Dark: Exploring the Horror Film (documentary) - Himself 2012 46,744
Dark Dreamers (TV series) - Himself (1 episode) 66,047
Clive Barker - Himself ????
Fear Clinic: Director Diaries (TV series documentary) - Himself (1 episode, 2010) 355,093
San Diego Comic-Con - Himself 2010
The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (TV series) - Himself (1 episode, 2007) 5,528 8.0 1,831
Episode #4.169 - Himself 2007
Demons to Others: The Making of 'Hellraiser: Prophecy' (documentary short) - Himself 2007 154,440 2.6 29
Halloween: 25 Years of Terror (video documentary) - Himself 2006 34,625 7.8 702
Ringers: Lord of the Fans (documentary) - Himself 2005 53,158 6.1 545
The 100 Scariest Movie Moments (TV mini-series documentary) - Himself (unknown episodes) 2004 11,265 8.6 723
Abarat: The Artist's Passion (video short) - Himself 2004 228,242 10.0 8
Clive Barker: Raising Hell (video documentary short) - Himself 2004 158,435 5.5 28
Sweets to the Sweet: The Candyman Mythos (video documentary short) - Himself 2004 127,060 6.5 48
Real Time with Bill Maher (TV series) - Himself (1 episode, 2003) 8,925 7.9 3,600
Episode #1.10 - Himself 2003
You Don't Know Jack... About MonsterFest (TV special) - Himself - Host 2001 641,099
Exposure (TV series) - Himself (1 episode, 2000) 85,953 7.9 16
Episode #1.10 - Himself 2000
The Road to Dracula (video documentary short) - Himself 1999 182,769 7.0 205
Clive Barker's Freakz (short) - Himself 1998 651,959 7.0 7
Barn of the Blood Llama - Himself 1997 118,312 3.1 73
The Making of 'Psycho' (video documentary) - Himself, author/filmmaker 1997 110,201 7.3 180
Masters of Fantasy (TV series documentary) - Self (1 episode, 1996) 208,793
Clive Barker - Self 1996
The Making of 'Lord of Illusions' (TV documentary short) - Himself (director) 1995 219,609 7.6 10
The Anatomy of Horror (TV documentary) - Himself 1995 282,266 2.9 20
Late Show with David Letterman (TV series) - Himself (1 episode, 1995) 4,772 6.8 2,030
Episode dated 18 August 1995 - Himself 1995
Clive Barker: The Art of Horror (video documentary short) - Himself 1992 75,626 7.5 5
Fear in the Dark (TV documentary) - Himself 1991 114,670 7.2 37
The Last Resort with Jonathan Ross (TV series) - Himself (1 episode, 1987) 81,045 5.4 7
Episode #2.6 - Himself 1987


Other (3 titles)
Year MOVIE
Meter User
Rating User
Votes
Jericho (video game) - Writer 2007 48,420 7.1 326
Demonik (video game) - Writer 2006 87,096 8.8 41
Undying (video game) - Writer, Ambrose Covenant (voice) 2001 98,929 8.8 413redits on IMDB pro -

So AS did try

these all look like writing credits to me.

Lord of Illusions (screenplay / story "The Last Illusion")
Hellraiser - Writer (novel "The Hellbound Heart") (uncredited) (written by), Director, Animator (uncredited) 1987 2,517 $1M $14.6M
Rawhead Rex - Writer (screenplay) 1986 20,417
Underworld - Writer (screenplay) (story) 1985 30,192

Also Look here for the past rewrite contest for ZvG that Lauri won.

http://studios.amazon.com/contests/16#winners/scriptSpotlight:ZombiesVs.GladiatorsRewrite

Actually, I always assumed from the first that if AS was interested in my script, it would be turned over to more experienced writers. Consider it a paid apprenticeship. In order to get a lot of good jobs these days who have to first do an apprenticeship. Sometimes without pay, to prove your worth. As we gain experience, and can pad our resumes with experience, more opportunities will come. From what I read most of the money is screenwriting anyway, comes from rewriting other people's scripts, or even your own after others have rewritten it out of recognition of your original story.

they're not interested in your script. they're interested in your CONCEPT... if you had one they wanted, that is. but, you must execute it properly in script format to get them interested. there are a few really good scripts here, but if it's not a concept they want then there's nothing you can do about it... except to face the truth and go elsewhere.

Well, I hope resume means something outside my country.
Here it only means you will surely not get a job in that field.
I have 3 cannes lions nominations, a golden Epica award and a myriad of other international awards in advertising and the last job I was offered was packaging Tervol insulation...

So... in my experience - resume is worth a fetid dingo's kidney. You have to have pure incredible luck to land a writer's job of your life.

It matters just as much who is attached to it. Who cares about "Joe Blow" if you can get somebody with a name to do the same thing. He has a loyal following so it's a gurantee that it will at least break even if it ever does get made. It does suck thhough, I always thought his zombies kinda sucked :x

Q -- Why did Clive Barker get the gig.
A -- We're all talking about it! And that's good business.

if you guys would SHUT UP AND START TALKING ABOUT ME.... then we might have something ;)